diff --git a/firmware/CHANGELOG.md b/firmware/CHANGELOG.md
index 819c3bb25f..dcf047da97 100644
--- a/firmware/CHANGELOG.md
+++ b/firmware/CHANGELOG.md
@@ -36,6 +36,7 @@ Release template (copy/paste this for new release):
 
 ### Removed
  - ICU trigger input logic since it is unused in any current ECU #639
+ - Idle PID "offset" field, as this role is filled more effectively by the various open loop parameters.
 
 ## July 2022 Release - "Day 130"
 
diff --git a/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_1_6.cpp b/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_1_6.cpp
index 458d3b1f9b..5e2b8d25ba 100644
--- a/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_1_6.cpp
+++ b/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_1_6.cpp
@@ -358,7 +358,6 @@ void setMiataNA6_MAP_MRE() {
 	engineConfiguration->idle_derivativeFilterLoss = 0.1;
 	engineConfiguration->idle_antiwindupFreq = 0.1;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.dFactor = 0.002;
-	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.offset = 0;
 	engineConfiguration->acIdleExtraOffset = 14;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.minValue = -7;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.maxValue = 35;
diff --git a/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_na8.cpp b/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_na8.cpp
index 36eeddc06d..12a94c03ad 100644
--- a/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_na8.cpp
+++ b/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_na8.cpp
@@ -30,7 +30,6 @@ static void commonNA8() {
 	engineConfiguration->idle_derivativeFilterLoss = 0.08;
 	engineConfiguration->idle_antiwindupFreq = 0.03;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.dFactor = 0.002;
-	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.offset = 9;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.minValue = 76;
 	engineConfiguration->idlerpmpid_iTermMin = -15;
 	engineConfiguration->idlerpmpid_iTermMax = 30;
diff --git a/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_vvt.cpp b/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_vvt.cpp
index 43b0c4e583..752e906710 100644
--- a/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_vvt.cpp
+++ b/firmware/config/engines/mazda_miata_vvt.cpp
@@ -343,7 +343,6 @@ static void setCommonMazdaNB() {
 	engineConfiguration->idle_derivativeFilterLoss = 0.08;
 	engineConfiguration->idle_antiwindupFreq = 0.03;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.dFactor = 0.002;
-	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.offset = 9;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.minValue = -8;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.minValue = 76;
 	engineConfiguration->idlerpmpid_iTermMin = -15;
diff --git a/firmware/controllers/actuators/idle_thread.h b/firmware/controllers/actuators/idle_thread.h
index 6e2a7b3278..e88e2c1ee3 100644
--- a/firmware/controllers/actuators/idle_thread.h
+++ b/firmware/controllers/actuators/idle_thread.h
@@ -105,7 +105,6 @@ void setManualIdleValvePosition(int positionPercent);
 void startIdleThread();
 void setDefaultIdleParameters();
 void startIdleBench(void);
-void setIdleOffset(float value);
 void setIdlePFactor(float value);
 void setIdleIFactor(float value);
 void setIdleDFactor(float value);
diff --git a/firmware/controllers/actuators/idle_thread_io.cpp b/firmware/controllers/actuators/idle_thread_io.cpp
index d7ed364b12..b04e686722 100644
--- a/firmware/controllers/actuators/idle_thread_io.cpp
+++ b/firmware/controllers/actuators/idle_thread_io.cpp
@@ -139,11 +139,6 @@ void setTargetIdleRpm(int value) {
 	showIdleInfo();
 }
 
-void setIdleOffset(float value)  {
-	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.offset = value;
-	showIdleInfo();
-}
-
 void setIdlePFactor(float value) {
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.pFactor = value;
 	applyPidSettings();
@@ -213,6 +208,9 @@ static void blipIdle(int idlePosition, int durationMs) {
 }
 
 void startIdleThread() {
+	// Force the idle controller to use 0 offset, as this is handled by the open loop table instead.
+	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.offset = 0;
+
 	engine->module<IdleController>().unmock().init();
 
 #if ! EFI_UNIT_TEST
diff --git a/firmware/controllers/settings.cpp b/firmware/controllers/settings.cpp
index 692470521f..6bc8b794b2 100644
--- a/firmware/controllers/settings.cpp
+++ b/firmware/controllers/settings.cpp
@@ -979,7 +979,6 @@ const command_f_s commandsF[] = {
 		{"script_curve_2_value", setScriptCurve2Value},
 #if EFI_PROD_CODE
 #if EFI_IDLE_CONTROL
-		{"idle_offset", setIdleOffset},
 		{"idle_p", setIdlePFactor},
 		{"idle_i", setIdleIFactor},
 		{"idle_d", setIdleDFactor},
diff --git a/firmware/tunerstudio/rusefi.input b/firmware/tunerstudio/rusefi.input
index 0bad30d43d..cf62a07694 100644
--- a/firmware/tunerstudio/rusefi.input
+++ b/firmware/tunerstudio/rusefi.input
@@ -89,7 +89,6 @@ enable2ndByteCanID = false
 ; this section will be generated automatically by ConfigDefinition.jar based on rusefi_config.txt
 
 ; CONFIG_DEFINITION_END
-	idleRpmPid_offset = "Constant base value"
 
 [Tuning]
    spotDepth       =   2 ; 0 = no indicators, 1 = Z only, 2 = XYZ indicators.
@@ -2839,7 +2838,6 @@ cmd_set_engine_type_default					= "@@TS_IO_TEST_COMMAND_char@@\x00\x31\x00\x00"
 		field = "derivativeFilterLoss",					idle_derivativeFilterLoss
 		field = "antiwindupFreq",						idle_antiwindupFreq
 		field = "D-factor",								idleRpmPid_dFactor
-		field = "Offset",								idleRpmPid_offset
 		field = "Min",									idleRpmPid_minValue
 		field = "Max",									idleRpmPid_maxValue
 		field = "iTerm Min",							idlerpmpid_iTermMin
diff --git a/unit_tests/tests/test_idle_controller.cpp b/unit_tests/tests/test_idle_controller.cpp
index 1dfaa3323a..8eafef213d 100644
--- a/unit_tests/tests/test_idle_controller.cpp
+++ b/unit_tests/tests/test_idle_controller.cpp
@@ -304,7 +304,6 @@ TEST(idle_v2, closedLoopBasic) {
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.pFactor = 0.5;	// 0.5 output per 1 RPM error = 50% per 100 rpm
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.iFactor = 0;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.dFactor = 0;
-	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.offset = 0;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.iFactor = 0;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.periodMs = 0;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.minValue = -50;
@@ -333,7 +332,6 @@ TEST(idle_v2, closedLoopDeadzone) {
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.pFactor = 0.5;	// 0.5 output per 1 RPM error = 50% per 100 rpm
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.iFactor = 0;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.dFactor = 0;
-	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.offset = 0;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.iFactor = 0;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.periodMs = 0;
 	engineConfiguration->idleRpmPid.minValue = -50;