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<H1>[ZcF-general] May update</H1>
<B>Samuel D Gordon</B>
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<I>Fri Jun 21 10:38:15 EDT 2019</I>
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<PRE>We have continued working on our paper. While thinking about how to analyze our scheme, we realized that our framework doesn&#8217;t have to be applied on top of ring signatures / monero per se. Any method for fully anonymous mixing among a small set can be composed to provide mixing for a much larger set, with differential privacy. The trade-off is security for efficiency: for n parties to fully mix their coins using ZKP (whether with SNARKS or ring signatures) require O(n) expensive operations per party. Using our approach, we require polylog n operations per party, but leak some information.
We have also improved on our construction, further reducing the computational cost by about a factor of 10 (depending on the choice of epsilon). Currently, we believe we can claim improved computation cost for any n &gt; 1600 participants in the mixing.
Issues to address:
* We are still looking at ways to reduce the needed noise.
* With the recent introduction of short ring signatures (log size), our construction will have worse communication complexity than existing schemes. We don&#8217;t really see a way to address this, and will instead analyze the savings in computational cost, and the relative importance of this savings.
* We still need to think about how much of our communication needs to be put on the blockchain, vs. what can be done off chain. This was less of a concern prior to the introduction of log-sized ring signatures.
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